Strip 143 - Alignment Tutorial - Part 9 (True Neutral)

5th Mar 2015, 12:00 AM in Corvus Village
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DragonTrainer 5th Mar 2015, 12:00 AM edit delete
DragonTrainer
This alignment was probably the hardest for me to comprehend let alone describe... so... yeah... >_>

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Haegan2005 5th Mar 2015, 12:05 AM edit delete reply
Haegan2005
works for me.
Otaku 5th Mar 2015, 12:20 AM edit delete reply
Otaku
Main thing that concerns me is the claim of being bias free; if you're alive, you're biased. It comes with the territory. Otherwise, that is probably what game designers intended, but like most alignments, I never really "got" Neutral either.
nathan400 5th Mar 2015, 1:44 AM edit delete reply
nathan400
The only easy to understand alignment in my opinion is chaotic evil. I.E., the "I only give a s**t if it's good for me, to h*ll with other people's wants, needs, and/or happiness". Also known as the d*ck side.
Book O Dragons 5th Mar 2015, 2:22 AM edit delete reply


I'd consider that neutral evil. CE is more "evil is fun, just try and stop me".
Book O Dragons 5th Mar 2015, 2:20 AM edit delete reply


I really hated the 4e alignments. They started by removing 4 alignments then made neutral into unaligned to finish pissing me off. I might consider a 10 alignment system but that 5 piece bastard system was horrible.
The 10 alignment system would split true neutral into neutral and unaligned. Neutral would be those who fight against extreme alignments and unaligned would be those who don't care and those who can't comprehend.
Zilfallion 5th Mar 2015, 4:05 AM edit delete reply
Zilfallion
Myself, and most of the people I play with that have looked at 4e agree on that 5-part alignment crap. My current GM agrees that unaligned was the only good alignment to come out of 4e's change, a lot like what you describe.

Honestly, when it comes to alignment, on a lot of characters, I have a REALLY hard time placing them within a single alignment. Some characters are just really ALL over the place. Quite willing to perform evil actions without remorse, but a generally nice person who will help out others, extremely loyal to friends and seeing a job through, but a flagrant disregard for the law when it gets in the way. Placing a character into a single alignment is one of the hardest parts of character creation.
Book O Dragons 5th Mar 2015, 12:52 PM edit delete reply


My NG cleric of Mielikki is the sort who is comfortable with infiltrating evil groups while planning to kill them all in their sleep. It has to do with her being apprenticed to a trapper as a child.

A sorcerer I'm making has the urchin background and views the keeping of wealth and goods for the purpose of status and ostentation as evil and feels justified in picking the pockets of every noble he encounters.
Otaku 7th Mar 2015, 9:21 AM edit delete reply
Otaku
"Archaic Alignments"
Alignments strike me as something that needs to be abandoned; it was an unrefined tool for role-playing that works a lot better now with just having restrictive traits that are either required or that give back something to the player (such as build points in a points based system).

Of course, because D&D style games have magic systems that incorporate alignments, at the same time that idea doesn't seem to work. I just know I like having the option of having the choice to play someone largely undefined (or defined as we game) or to carefully craft my characters' responses so that they feel as "real" as possible.

Alignments don't really do that for me because it forces conformity of worldview not only between GM and players but even between them and the designers. I'm the type to believe in things like absolute good and evil but I know plenty of people are the exact opposite and there are those that can't be described as either... but the alignment system basically clubs everyone over the head with someone else's views.
Kyosuke Nambu 5th Mar 2015, 12:13 PM edit delete reply


I have no strong feelings on this subject.
Tinskin 5th Mar 2015, 3:03 PM edit delete reply


My version of neutral is "whatever is most beneficial at the time" Its really nice when my summoner isint limited on what outsiders he can summon,.
Raxon 6th Mar 2015, 12:07 AM edit delete reply
Raxon
True Neutral, or as I like to call it, the "piss off, I don't give a crap" alignment.
Bitzer 6th Mar 2015, 11:58 AM edit delete reply


The way I had always heard neutral described was that they believed innocent life should be protected. They just didn't care enough to do it themselves.
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